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File:INA colony Satellite view.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Belbury (talk) 13:51, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome, Dear Filemover!

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Hi Matrix, you're now a filemover. When moving files please respect the following advice:

  • Use the CommonsDelinker link in the {{Rename}} template to order a bot to replace all ocurrences of the old title with the new one. Or, if there was no rename-request, please use the Move & Replace-tab.
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  • Please know and follow the file rename guidelines.
The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 19:40, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Congratulations, Dear Administrator!

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An offering for our new administrator from your comrades...

Matrix, congratulations! You now have administrator rights on Commons. Please take a moment to read the Commons:Administrators page and watchlist related pages (in particular Commons:Administrators' noticeboard and its subpages), before launching yourself into page deletions, page protections, account blockings or modifications of protected pages. The majority of the actions of administrators can be reversed by the other admins, except for history merges which must thus be treated with particular care. Have a look at the list of Gadgets (on the bottom there are the ones specifically for admins – however, for example the UserMessages are very helpful too).

Please feel free to join us on IRC: #wikimedia-commons webchat on irc.libera.chat. There is also a channel for Commons admins, which may be useful for more sensitive topics, or coordination among administrators: #wikimedia-commons-admin webchat.

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Please also check or add your entry to the List of administrators and the related lists by language and date it references.

--Krd 15:10, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! 🎉🎉🎉👏👏👏 Bedivere (talk) 16:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :) Good luck with your RFA as well! —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - contributions} 16:56, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations @Matrix and welcome to the team! ─ Aafī (talk) 17:11, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats. User:Jameslwoodward/Commons notes for administrators is another helpful resource in addition to the one that Krd linked. Abzeronow (talk) 17:51, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revert request.

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I request a revert to all of my categorisation edits. Platnieuem (talk) 06:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at your edit history at Category:Buildings, I'm assuming you've already done this yourself. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - contributions} 15:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion prematurely closed

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Where can I comment on Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Mosbatho_(remove_file_rename_right) ? You added a notice "Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page." where is that?

I don't think "The file move suggested by User:Mpns was warranted with respect to the given criteria." is an acknowledgement of error. Besides, the user hasn't indicated how we would avoid similar issues going forward. Enhancing999 (talk) 18:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Enhancing999: Hello, looking at the village pump discussion, I think that consensus has largely emerged that whilst the rename was not Criterion 3: Obvious Error, we should not reverse it (though I can't read German so take that with a pinch of salt). Regardless, I don't see what the point revoking file mover status is. This is not a user conduct dispute, and it is not like this is a chronic behavioral problem. Mosbatho has performed many other appropriate moves, and this was a bit of an edge case to be honest. They can take this as a sign not to perform this kind of type of move again. They have said Due to the discussion I now follow the opinion that the initial file name would be better and I now support the old name instead of the recent one at [1]. You would be better off discussing at village pump and coming to some sort of consensus. If they keep doing this type of move despite warnings, that's when we should escalate to COM:ANU.
Regardless, if you still think that this is a chronic/long-term behavorial problem that must be resolved, you can post a new thread at COM:ANU. I will not close if you do so it since I am now an involved admin. Cheers, —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - contributions} 18:48, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You might have misread the German discussion as I don't think he apologized for the rename there nor for his lack of addressing the question initially or his subsequent comments (you noted this in your closure, can you show me a diff?). You probably noticed that he hasn't fixed anything either.
I was told to make the rights removal request on ANU, but if this should be done somewhere else, I can to. Apparently it's not Commons:Requests for rights either. Maybe it's better to reopen the ANU thread and leave it to someone who reads the German discussion. Enhancing999 (talk) 18:56, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Enhancing999: Fair enough. Due to my lack of German knowledge, I'll let another admin decide and I'll re-open at ANU shortly, but I still think that this doesn't necessitate the removal of file mover rights. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - contributions} 20:11, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gadget-UserMessages

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I noticed you closed Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Dont remove warnings, depreciated {{Dont remove warnings}}, and removed it from Commons:Message templates/templates. However, you've left it enabled in the User Messages gadget that can be turned on at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. Was this just an oversight, or a deliberate choice? The gadget script is at MediaWiki:Gadget-UserMessages.js which loads MediaWiki:AxUserMsg.js. On the assumption that this was just an oversight, I've removed {{Dont remove warnings}} from the gadget in Special:Diff/860899266. Please feel free to revert me if that was not in line with your intentions. —RP88 (talk) 11:29, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This was just an oversight by my end, thanks for completing the job! —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - contributions} 14:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stop Already

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Matrix, Please stop deleting my logos, please go created you own logo for once!!!!!! 😡😡😡 Nekegatewood05.ex (talk) 17:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nekegatewood05.ex: Please read COM:DW and COM:SCOPE. If you feel like the logo should be undeleted, open an undeletion request instead of nominating my userpage for deletion. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 17:49, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noting

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Quick note. This file has a user trying to impose their PoV. I have left them a short message.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:52, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's in good faith, the DR said use {{Duplicate}} and they may not have realised that it's only for exact/scaled down duplicates. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 10:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C

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Dear Wikimedian,

You are receiving this message because you previously participated in the UCoC process.

This is a reminder that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) ends on May 9, 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.

On behalf of the UCoC project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 23:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As it is possible to have multiple "old" logos at some point, the name is ambiguous. It would be preferred to use more precise descriptor, eg year or year range in such cases. IMO, User:ZI Jony was right while declining the rename. Ankry (talk) 23:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ankry: I agree this is true, but I don't know when this logo was made. I tried to look for the information, but I failed. Consider this a placeholder name until I or someone else can find the correct dates. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 16:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

special:massdelete

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As a note, the special:massdelete tool/script and pulling a list together through petscan is also a way that I manage some of thOse things.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you link the batch delete script? I can't find it, it is like a userscript? Or are you talking about Special:Nuke? —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 17:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Poshtkuhe shamil location.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Consigned (talk) 00:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In my unblock request I originally requested this file be exempt from the other related deletions per COM:INUSE but at this point I think the fact that it’s still provoking crap like this, plus the general disregard for INUSE in the discussion, is more trouble to both myself and Commons than it’s worth. If you consider it appropriate, I endorse the immediate deletion of this image to finally close this whole unnecessary drama. Dronebogus (talk) 14:50, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done thanks for moving past this drama —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 15:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It’s disappointing that some people are seemingly unable to do the same. Dronebogus (talk) 09:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

file naming consensus

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Any reason why you discontinued users who opposed without going into detail, but included those who merely supported it? Also why did you include those who merely said the new text would be better? Enhancing999 (talk) 13:09, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, it appears that you participated in the discussion and voted yourself. Enhancing999 (talk) 13:18, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did not afaik, please provide diffsMatrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 13:47, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, indeed. Different section. Enhancing999 (talk) 13:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When you support something, you agree with the nominator's rationale, i.e. you think the argument is sound. You don't have to provide a reason why. When you oppose it, you have to provide a reason why you oppose the nominator's rationale, otherwise you are just opposing it for no reason. It's the same reason some beaureaucrats don't count opposes by themselves in RFAs. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 13:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can request review at COM:AN if you want though, lmk —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 13:47, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why did you remove opposing votes providing a valid reason before the version was amended, but not those who supported it before it was amended? Enhancing999 (talk) 14:01, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I counted votes in the final voting section and the continued discussion section. I've checked and it seems to add up. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 14:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you list the 4 users whose votes you didn't consider valid? Enhancing999 (talk) 14:09, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Abzeronow, modern_primat: opposing based on language concerns, which was removed before final voting occured (modern_primat also thought this was grounds to ban people, but I answered this in my closure talking about prescriptivity. I probably could've even counted it as weak support but I didn't.)
Tuválkin, Strakhov: opposing for no reason
Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 14:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:GFDL (English).ogg/Warning 1 has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Enhancing999 (talk) 09:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sending this to any uninvolved administrator I can find. The above deletion discussion as seen on the administrators noticeboard; an involved admin (J. Mabel) is urging someone to close the discussion one way or the other. WestVirginiaWX (talk) 19:38, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it’s already closed, don’t do anything. WestVirginiaWX (talk) 19:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
✓ DoneMatrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 04:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ANU

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Just an FYI, I've always been a pretty heavy editor who works in a ton of different areas. It's not hard to show up at ANU a lot when the bar for filing a complaint is so low that someone can report a user just because they forgot to ping them in a reply. There really needs to clearer standards for what justifies an ANU complaint, or at least more consequences for people who file ones that are clearly false. Otherwise a lot of complaints are bound to happen purely as a function of how none exiting the bar is. Be my guest and enforce some kind of rule about it though so people on here don't repeatedly file false complaints for the same user over and over as a bullying tactic. But you'd have to agree that it would be pretty ridiculous if I were blocked some day simply because of past complaints. Especially given how clearly false a good percentage of them are. Maybe that's something you could talk to the other admins about though. As I do genuinely think the amount of clearly deceptive, wrong complaints being filed (not just towards me but also in general) is an issue. Thanks. Adamant1 (talk) 09:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think enforcing rules for ANU complaints (besides notifying the subject) is a good idea. It will only prevent genuine complaints and abusers will find ways around. If you find a thread clearly frivolous, you can always boomerang (within reason). Other than that I can't really think of any ways to improve the ANU system. I assume many people have tried and failed to make amendments to ANI on English Wikipedia. Cheers, —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 11:13, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fair. Your probably right. Cheers, --Adamant1 (talk) 11:17, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/09/Category:Towers in Iran

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Hi. I understand why you closed the CfD the way you did. But I still don't see how it makes sense or follows the guidelines about over categorization to have Category:Towered buildings, Category:Towers by shape, and Category:Towers all in the same parent category. The outcome of a CfD with only 6 participants shouldn't be able to overrule an established guideline. Regardless, it's massively stupid to ignore a guideline in a single instance just because Orijentolog decided to throw a tantrum. So I'd like to see the overcategorization issue dealt with somehow regardless of how you closed the CfD. So do you have recommendations about how to deal with it? Adamant1 (talk) 22:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't necessarily think it is required to follow COM:OVERCAT religiously. For instance, Commons:Categories#Exception for images with more categorized subjects states an exception that, for example, Category:India can be categorised as Countries in Asia and Countries in South Asia. Ultimately, I think the principle of least astonishment applies - some may consider towers buildings, others may consider towers structures. I think it's a good idea to have both "Buildings by shape" and "Structures by shape" in Category:Towers to hence prevent confusion. Though I do think having "Towers by shape" inside of "Structures by shape" is dubious and probably a violation of COM:CATPRI. It is too specific for "Structures by shape", since the CfD established that towers are now considered shapes. That's my thoughts at least, feel free to start a VP discussion if you want further opinions. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 14:25, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]